Ray Frankz

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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

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  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  Ray Frankz

  Ok, that's an interesting letter.

  Now, take a look at the letter this brother I follow on Instagram recieved.

  I've talked to him, I'd say he's a PIMI.

  
  
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  Governing Body vs Local Elder Body

  by Boredposter in

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  shortly before my exit a youngish elder who recently came from brooklyn bethel commented to me how the local elder meetings were like the wild wild west.

  according to him in brooklyn there was a very definite way to handle things.

  he seemed to imply the brooklyn bethel way was better.. after seeing gb member splaines video about how elders could come to an united decision i was reminded of this.. i had to wonder about this then and i wonder now.

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  I think the main difference is that when the local elders take a decision that affects negatively one's life is mostly beacuse they are indoctrinated to believe they have God's spirit. When the GB does the same is because they want to mantain power.

  We all know there are a few number of "awaken" elders and some people at the world headquarters too. My question is: Do you tink is there anyone out there in the congregations or branches that is Awake but continues to 'make progress' in order to accumulate power? A kind of JW Frank Underwood? (I'm not considering the GB members in this questions)
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  You Might Be in a Cult if...

  by awake!watcher in

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  ... you are told to trust the slave as you do jehovah and jesus..

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  You are told to give up on your own rights for the wishes of the leadership
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  What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card

  by poopie in

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  please speculate.

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  Ray Frankz

  Please, where did you guys got this info? I need to drop it accidentally in a conversation.
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  Are You Proud of Your Country?

  by snugglebunny in

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  some people are of the opinion that it doesn't make any sense to be proud of one's nationality because we had nothing to do with where we were born.

  the decision wasn't ours.

  they opine that it's ludicrous to be proud of our countries' prior achievements if we had no part in those achievements because we weren't even around then.

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  Ray Frankz

  After realizing politics isn't a "devil" thing and it's not better or worse than religion, I started to analyze myself and find out how I stand concerning politics. What I'm sure so far:

  I'm pro democracy

  I'm pro free market

  I'm pro the laicism of state as much as I'm pro of freedom of religion (yes, I'm against what's happening in Russia)

  I'm against laws that make it easy for civils to get guns

  and, concerning the topic:

  i'm against nationalism.

  in my opinion what caused the holocaust wasn't the political position of Germany. This position, indeed, caused the war, but in the war there were two sides killing people, holocaust was genocide and in my opinion this was caused by the nationalism. We are too far in the human history to let the coordinates where we are born dictate who we love or who we hate.
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  Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  there are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.

  in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.

  all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.

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  "All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether or not these are Bible based or appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

  
  

  Is the "bible- based" part factual?
  
  
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  Anti-JW movie on Netflix?

  by Ray Frankz in

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  i'm watching the new netflix movie "come sunday".

  it's one more film about a person who has turning point in life that demands the person to reevaluate his own faith and belief system.

  in this case, the man is a petencostal bishop that gets very famous and has a big church preaching about salvation to heaven and punishment in hell.

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  Ray Frankz

  I'm watching the new Netflix movie "Come Sunday". It's one more film about a person who has turning point in life that demands the person to reevaluate his own faith and belief system. In this case, the man is a Petencostal Bishop that gets very famous and has a big church preaching about salvation to heaven and punishment in hell. At one point he realizes the hell doctrine isn't right and start teaching the Universal Salvation. As expected, he faces prosecution, loses friends, etc.

  I was wondering, is it possible one day we see a big $ production based maybe on CoC of Ray Franz? The story is much much better than the one in this netflix movie, and since CoC is a long time published book, the Org wouldn't be able to shut the production. Imagine how many JWs have Netflix accounts, the temptation to sneak in the APOSTATE movie? Of course the Org would make all the threatens (disguised as advices) but c'mmon, IT WOULD BE A EX GOVERNING BODY (actually I believe no more than 10% of the JWs know there were ever a GB member that ended up disfellowshipped). Or if they made it a series, with the Ray Franz plot as the center, but with episodes focused maybe in Penton, or Carl Olof Johnson. It would be an apostate Hit.

  I really think that, even tough information is free today, that would be a punch the Org wouldn't recover.

  PS: I've pictured a movie based on CoC many times, I'd die for hearing the song FREEDOM by Anthony Hamilton (from Django) as the main theme. The lyrics also move me a lot, as I'm a PIMO.
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  Cart witnessing at the Toyota Grand Prix

  by Dagney in

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  picture 185,000 people on the streets attending the biggest event in long beach.

  there is a main downtown street which is the only way into the grand prix.

  it’s chaos because it is not private property that can be contained; these are working boulevards with cars and people vying to get where they want to go.

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  Ray Frankz

  Even awake now, having pioneered some years ago (before carts, JW.Org, big screens in conventions and TV JW) I feel fooled when remember the sacrifices I had to make in order to complete my 70 hrs, and now they just play statue for one week and voila, you are the month employee.
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  I think I was terribly wrong...

  by sinboi in

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  i have once commented under the topic "are you better off as a worldly person or a jw?

  i am a born-in but left nearly a year ago at age 16. i would say when i was a jw and was still fully convinced that it is the truth, i was happier.

  i have a hope then.

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  Ray Frankz

  I can assure you that this phase is normal, I believe everybody who ever found TTATT has passed through moments wondering "if I'm not a JW what I am". It's not wrong to ask this, just be patient and you will get the answer. If you end up being an atheist, so it is. If you find a halfway that fits you better, gives U some kind of spiritual peace, so go on.
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  You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...

  by pale.emperor in

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  you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

  you pretend to knock on the doors.

  you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.

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  Ray Frankz

  You are pretty sure you won't die for not taking blood.